Alternative Spirituality

» Migisi - Spiritualist a personal definition

In response to Spiritualist a personal definition posted by pink101:

One of the most recent was this doctrine that God wants everyone to be wealthy. (What is that doctrine called? It escapes me right now. But, there is a word for it.)
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I call it 'profit-sy', but others call it the 'Health and Wealth Gospel' or 'Prosperity' preaching. A lot of televangelists use it. Basically, they say give a dollar, you get blessed in kind seven fold. Have you experienced your blessing yet, Pink? (wink)

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» sacred_insights - "Wink"

In response to "Wink" posted by pink101:
Yep... money is not the be all and end all...I find my blessings elsewhere also. But the bit of money I do have to give now goes to reputable charities where children will be helped.

Cat

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» Migisi - Beggars and thieves

In response to Spiritualist a personal definition posted by sacred_insights:

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I have a close friend who's a head server at a nice restaurant. Once a year, she works the banquet for Chicago Catholic Dioceses Conference. The donations poor Catholics give every Sunday - which are supposed to go to the poor parish schools/churches and Catholic charities? Well, it goes right into the bellies of the Cardinal, bishops, and monsignors. My friend reported the evening conference for 50 elite church leaders cost $17,000+! That's $340+ per. (BTW, most was spent on booze.) My ol' Irish Catholic granny used to say about priests - 'Put a beggar on horseback and he'll ride to the devil'! If you're not familiar, this means one who's been made arrogant and corrupt through achieving wealth and luxury. My granny pegged em.
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Ever been in a big Catholic cathedral? The wealth of the RC church is obscene.

-- posted by Migisi

» sacred_insights - Beggars and thieves

In response to Beggars and thieves posted by Migisi:
My mom was raised RC and was poor and I mean dirt poor! Now there were 11 kids total and 8 survived... The church wanted grandma to keep procreating and increase the flock but did little to help my grandma who was in a bad marriage where he was a drinker and womanizer and beat the kids. Mom finally landed in the convent it was the school for the "bad girls". She went there with her younger sister when my grandmother and grandfather split up because there was no money to keep them while my grandmother sorted things out.

Then my mother went to work a few years later at the age of 15 and she has spent a life trying to understand what happened to her when she was young. Yep the RC church served her well...

You know she looks after my grandma now and holds no regrets... Now that is someone who learned how to serve others without expectation! And she did not go to church every Sunday and play the part either. She lived life and did the best she knew how and taught me to stand up for myself.

Some folks here may think I am a "dead beat" well all the power to them... Those same folks have a grandchild who is also disabled and poor pity that child if that is their attitude...

This so-called "dead beat" gave what she could to the church she attended and quite frankly my tithes before you count the readings was well into $80-100 a month if you consider the cost of the transportation to get there. I was attending 3 times a week on average if not more! Then you look at the 20% for readings and never mind the hours I spent on the web and off promoting the church and the personal friends I brought to church events!

Yep now I know why my mother kept her spirituality in her own way and never bothered with churches!

Yes Migisi, I have been in a big Catholic cathedral but they are not the only ones who are out for the money. They have just been doing it longer than some of the Alternative Faiths and so have had the chance to amass the wealth! Every religion will have its day I am sure!

Cat

-- posted by sacred_insights

» sacred_insights - Beggars and thieves

In response to Beggars and thieves posted by sacred_insights:
And to think I attended 3 times a week if not more for well over 3 years at that one church never mind the other Spiritualist churches I was at in different cities before that!

Lesson learned I figure!

Cat

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» Migisi - Beggars and thieves

In response to Beggars and thieves posted by sacred_insights:

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Yep now I know why my mother kept her spirituality in her own way and never bothered with churches!
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Your mother knew.
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Every religion will have its day I am sure!
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Mat 6:24
"No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money."
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Jesus knew.

-- posted by Migisi

» sacred_insights - Beggars and thieves

In response to Beggars and thieves posted by Migisi:
Yep they did...

-- posted by sacred_insights

» sacred_insights - Wonders

In response to Wonders posted by spiritalk:

Guilt no J.... but honesty would be a nice change! You run down the New Age for making money when you are motivated by the vary same thing as a Spiritualist Minister.

I never said I did not need to make money you were the one who made a big deal about the fact that SOME PEOPLE ARE ACCRUING GREAT WEALTH and blame the New Age for that even though Spiritualism itself has as checkered a history! Why is it ok for you to make money in the name of Spiritualism and not ok for those in the New Age movement to make money?

and you say:

"Someone who acknowledges themselves as 'new age' accepts any and all random theories that pass along the path of literature and/or belief. There is no grounding base that says this is too far out or in. It just accepts.
There is no platform to promelgate [sic] their message, but are not shy to use another group's resources for this purpose.
God bless, J"
Message 2: http://newage.suite101.com/discussion.cf...

Seems to me your problem is you don't like someone else cutting in on your piece of the pie. But to be frankly honest, most of the New Age folks I have met were outside the Spiritualist Church at other events where you were trying to promote your church and none of them tried to stop you from selling your gig!

You more than promoted your church for free on the meetup.com site without paying for use of the platform. Again it is ok for you to promote your church anywhere you want but you get upset when they come to the door and want to use your platform?

Sounds hypocritical to me...

-- posted by sacred_insights

» spiritalk - Wonders

In response to Wonders posted by sacred_insights:

when the premise is flawed, it is not worthy of response.

God bless, J

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» sacred_insights - Wonders

In response to Wonders posted by spiritalk:
LOL not flawed at all... given that you posted (If one uses your logic). You seemed to need to reply to the comment. IF it was such an unworthy observation why did you feel the need to say anything at all?
But thanks for the answer it says volumes!
Cat

-- posted by sacred_insights